Mark Weber - The Indolent who Failed the IHR

Mark Weber continues his stream of calls for donation dollars, both through the IHR website and his Constant Contact list. The 2009 taxes filed show donations brought in $195,000 for that period, so why is he asking for even more donations?

You see Weber is using the IHR as a personal sinecure, $47,000 per year

A position or office that requires little or no work but provides a salary.

Weber's Record of Failure

1. Cancelled the Journal of Historical Review.

2. Cancelled the yearly IHR conferences.

3. Cancelled the IHR Update Newsletter

4. Cancelled the IHR weekly internet radio show Worldwatch

5. Cancelled new book projects, resells books that can be bought cheaper elsewhere.

Mark Weber attends himself to writing an article once in a while, appearing on obscure internet radio programs, copying and pasting OTHER people's news stories for his News & Comment service.

Mark Weber lived at the expense of a wealthy Nebraska revisionist, the late William Curry, for ten years, ostensibly writing a book that would be the "final word" on the Holocaust. No such book has ever materialized even though it was Curry's dying wish that the book be published. With the resources of the IHR at his command, Weber could have his book published almost overnight. Does this book exist or was Weber exploiting Mr. Curry?

Thus is the craven and duplicitous nature of Mark Weber.


Paul Grubach Responds to a Defense of Mark Weber

It was written: "Your negative obsession with Mark Weber is unseemly and harmful to the cause of truth, in my opinion. It would be better for each of you to try your best to write and speak and publish, and may the support flow proportionately to whomever is the most effective."

Grubach responds. Directly contradicting what this person wrote, my concern about Mark Weber's wastage of Movement money is both right and good. Just look at page 3, Part III of Weber's/IHR's tax return. From 2004 until 2008 Weber took in a whopping total of $1,407,442!!! And what does Weber have to show for it??? Next to nothing! Weber destroyed the Journal of Historical Review, the IHR's book publishing arm, the IHR's newsletter, the yearly IHR conferences, and the IHR's Internet Radio broadcast. And Weber's destructiveness does not end here. Weber led the charge to destroy Willis Carto's Liberty Lobby and Spotlight, and he did nothing to replace them.

My point is that all of the money that is wasted on Mark Weber's IHR could be put to very good use elsewhere.

Grubach wrote: "Weber may be legally hiding his income under some other category."

The response to this was: "Such wild, unsupported insinuations are also potentially very harmful to many good people -- Mark's family and children, LSF staff, writers, et cetera -- and our cause.Your unsupported nonsense also contains an implicit assumption: that
minimizing the receipts of the regime in Washington is somehow immoral. I don't accept that assumption."

Grubach responds. Directly contradicting what this person wrote, my claims were not "wild, unsupported insinuations." On page 7 Part VII, it states that Mark Weber had no Reportable compensation from IHR/Legion for Survival of Freedom. Yet, on page 10 Part IX of the same document we learn that $51,480 was paid out in "Compensation to current officers, directors, trustees, and key employees." In Column B we learn that $46,332 was paid out for "Program services and expenses." Is this how Mark Weber was paid?? What his payment put under another category where his name need not be mentioned?

Grubach's Closing Statement. Since he has taken over the IHR, Mark Weber has done more damage to the Revisionist/patriot movement than the ADL could have ever dreamed of doing. And unless we openly discuss the damage that he done, we will never come up with a solution.

What did Mark Weber do with $195,000 ?

IHR 990 2009 Tax Return

Paul Grubach's 2nd Response to a Defense of Mark Weber

The Defender of Mark Weber writes: "Mark Weber has held, I think, three formal public gatherings this year, not counting the IHR open house. I hope that you have done as much, and have been as effective."

Grubach responds. Mark Weber's "three formal public gatherings" and the "open house" attracted about 25 to 40 people per meeting. This is a very poor record, considering that Weber operated on $1,407,442 in public donations taken in from 2004 to 2008! By way of contrast, our online Revisionist journal, Inconvenient History, which operates on a very miniscule budget has had tens of thousand of viewers. Indeed, many months ago, I was told by the editor that my article on the current Demjanjuk trial had around 4000 hits! That is to say, one article from our Inconvenient History website got over four thousand views. The entire number of people who attended Weber's three meetings and open house was around 200. Directly contradicting what this person writes, this shows how ineffective Mark Weber really is.

Mark Weber's laziness and non-productivity is further highlighted by the success of Inconvenient History (IH). All of us at IH work for free and create our essays in our spare time. By way of contrast, Revisionism is supposed to be Mark Weber's full time job for which he is paid around $46,000 per year. Yet, Weber is just too lazy to even create an online journal. A former IHR employee pointed out, instead of working Weber spends his time on the phone with his wife and friends, pontificates on current history, watches You Tube video's, and sends out newspaper clippings--all the while he is took in $1,407,442 in donations and wasted it all.

The defender of Mark Weber writes:
"He has also created an online publication with approximately the same daily audience (according to Alexa's rating service) as some medium-size establishment media outlets -- not much less than the Tampa Tribune, for example. He's also quoted and interviewed fairly often by non-revisionist media. That's a creditable accomplishment."

Grubach responds. This is downright misleading. In a past mass email, Weber admitted that he has only around 1000 recipients for "Free News and Information Service." And furthermore, his "online publication" consists mostly of newspaper clippings from other web sites. Unlike the Occidental Quarterly, Barnes Review, and Inconvenient History, Weber is simply too lazy to do the work of creating and editing new and original material, so he simply spends his day sending out or posting articles from other web sites. And furthermore, I would be willing to bet that better than half of his 1000 recipients don't even bother to open his mass emails. Over the years, Weber has created very little original material.

In regard to his web site, Weber relies upon newspaper clippings from other web sites and past issues of the now defunct Journal of Historical Review, a large portion of which was created during the years when Carto was in control of the IHR. Weber's job is too create new and original studies and essays (like the Occidental Quarterly, Barnes Review, and Inconvenient History do). Weber does not do this--he simply spends his time posting articles from other web sites.

The reader should ask himself this question:
From 2004 to 2008, Weber has taken in $1,407,442 in patriot/Revisionist donations, and in return he posts articles from other web sites and sends out newspaper clippings to around 1000 people. Is the Revisionist/patriot movement getting a good return on their money?

Finally, it is an exaggeration to say that Weber is "quoted and interviewed fairly often by non-revisionist media." Weber is quoted and interviewed every once in a while, mostly by obscure radio shows and news sources. Furthermore, in the recent past, the mainstream non-Revisonist media has quoted him in order to do damage to the Revisionist movement. This further demonstrates what a liability Weber can be. For example, I remember seeing how USA Today quoted him in order to "discredit" the Holocaust revisionist movement.

Weber's Defender writes:
"Engaging in personal attacks on others in the field, in order to scrabble over the really minuscule donation pool that truth-tellers have to work with, isn't increasing that pool or spreading the truth to those who ought to hear it."

Grubach Responds. This is simply blatantly false. I am not "scrabbling over a miniscule donation pool." From 2004 to 2008 Mark Weber took in a whopping $1,407,442. Contrary to what this person writes, this is not a "miniscule donation pool." This is a lot of money that Mark Weber's IHR is wasting. I will continue to encourage people to stop sending the pathetic failure of a leader of the IHR, Mark Weber, their money, and send it to more deserving organizations.

Grubach's Closing Statement.
The good people of our Movement have had their money wasted by Mark Weber's IHR. It is high time that we discuss whether or not Weber should receive any more Revisionist/patriot money.

Paul Grubach


Mark Weber is a Con Man

The rank and file of the Revisionist movement have "gotten wise" to Mark Weber. Your laziness and incompetence have done enormous damage to the IHR, and it is now plain for everyone to see. Your "work" at the IHR is simply a "retirment hobby," a con game in which you acquire a weekly pay check to help make your child support payments. In fact, you have betrayed and conned the entire Revisionist movement. In my opinion, years ago it was a mistake of mamouth proportions when you conned us all to back you during the height of the Carto-IHR conflict. Thank God you failed to acquire the millions of dollars from the Farrell Bequest--you would have wasted it all away. Your enemy Willlis Carto is not perfect, but the fact of the matter remains is that Carto produces: Carto gets things done: Carto builds effective organizations. Just compare Carto's record to yours.

Paul Grubach


Mark Weber is a Sneaky, Duplicitous, Self-promoting Little S...

You have now disparaged Holocaust Revisionists as "cultists" and "fanatics". Yet for seventeen years you have been posturing down at the IHR as their leader. For seventeen years you have solicited financial contributions to support you in a job you now profess not to believe in. Does this not make you a fraud, Mr. Weber? Since you have misrepresented your real feelings for years and exploited the gullibility of those who believed in your false pretenses, should you perhaps refund all monies you have collected, both on your own behalf and on behalf of the Institute For Historical Review?

There is a legal principle known as "good faith and fair dealing", Mr. Weber. Have you acted in "good faith and fair dealing", Mr. Weber? Are we to believe that you came to your conclusions regarding the futility of Holocaust Revisionism only recently? Or is it more probable that you have carefully concealed this perspective from those you have been deluding for years? There will be those who will pounce on your betrayal as "proof" that Willis Carto was correct when he denounced you as a "Scientology agent". I refuse to believe it. Rather, the betrayal merely confirms what those who knew you in your National Alliance days already know-that you are a sneaky, duplicitous, self-promoting little shit.

Do not think that anyone is deceived by your change-of-course, Mr. Weber. You have been a failure your entire life-and you shall remain a failure. The best way to hasten your demise is for all supporters of the IHR to cease all financial contributions and to refuse to purchase any IHR products. Then, Mr. Weber, we can all bid you a fond farewell-as you sink into well-deserved oblivion.

Bill Guru

Mark Weber has Failed as an Editor, Failed as a Publisher and Failed as a Historian.


By Bill Guru

In his standard style, Mark Weber pretends that he has contributed greatly to the advance of Revisionism. And what proof does he adduce? Why, events of the 1980s! Mark Weber dredges up his testimony at the Zundel Trial in Canada as proof of his contributions to Revisionism. Leaving aside the fact that the testimonies of Faurrison, Leuchter and Irving were far more convincing than his own testimony, what has Mr. Weber done since taking over at the IHR to promote Revisionism? In a word, nothing. All the real research and writing that made the IHR world famous was achieved before Mark Weber came on board. Since then, Mark Weber has offered nothing but reprints from now deceased authors. Mark has made the IHR Journal both obsolete and defunct. He now screams that Revisionism is becoming politicized. (How shocking.) Professor Faurrison, who has done the original research which Mark Weber never did, is using the Holocaust Hoax to attack Israels brutalization of the Palestinians. What is wrong with that, pray tell?

Mr. Weber emphasizes that Bradley Smith's anti-Holocaust activities arent going so well, either. At least Bradley tries. That is more than Mark Weber is doing. Mark Webers excuses become ever more lame. The hard fact is that Mark is a do nothing. He has neither business nor management sense. He has failed as an editor, failed as a publisher and failed as a historian. He has no more excuses to offer. He should be relieved without further ado.


Weber really is a shameless chameleon and backstabber.

His, now famous, appearance on the Hannity and Colmes Show was the most shameful thing I have ever seen from any revisionist. The only reason he got on that show was because of the world-wide publicity being generated at that time by the revisionist conference in Teheran. No doubt, the producers for the H&C show could have found and called on Mark Weber long before and long after that conference--but they never cared. It was the revisionists who had risked so much to make Teheran conference happen who were the only reason Weber got the call. So, what did Weber do on the actual H&C Show? He stabbed every revisionist in the back--and, there are still idiots out there who support him.

Fritz Berg

Commentary on Mark Weber's Indolence

Very well written, Paul….but now I think Weber has simply gone over to the dark side. The juze are using his Jan 09 declaration and use of the supposed “Goebbels Diary” to say:

“You see, the revisionists knew all along that the Holocaust happened!”

Paul, you are a nice guy, but Directorium Weberi delendum est.

John de Nugent


Jan 24, 2010
Why can't Mark Weber fish or cut bait?

From: carlos porter

Date: Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:28 AM
Subject: Weber


Why can't Weber fish or cut bait?

Either the gas chambers existed or they did not. If he thinks they did not, that's fine, let him prove it. Why does he continue to derive a salary from a revisionist organization if that is what he believes? Why doesn't he just quit and go to work proving the existence of the gas chambers? The Jews would pay him well. Where does the $50,000 a year come from that he pays himself? Again, if the gas chambers existed, fine, that's great, let him prove him. He does neither. He doesn't prove it, he doesn't quit, he keeps fence-sitting, trying to derive prestige and money from both sides at once. He's a mugwump: somebody with his mug on one side of the fence, and his wump on the other.

He is a hypocrite. Let him prove it or get out.


In 2001, Eric Owens, a former employee, revealed that Mark Weber and Greg Raven from the IHR's staff had been planning to sell their mailing lists to the Anti-Defamation League.

Paul Grubach discusses Mark Weber and the current Revisionist Crisis

Dear Friends,

Of late, Mark Weber is generating a lot of news stories on the web sites of the enemies of Revisionism. The bees nest that he has stirred up has no sign of going away. There will probably be much more written about him in the near future by the enemies of Revisionism. Among other things, Weber has drawn erroneous conclusions in regard to diaries of Joseph Goebbels. This has done damage to the Revisionist movement. (I will address this issue in the future.)

At this time, I would like to address another important issue that surrounds Weber. In recent his recent fundraising efforts for his IHR that is on the brink of extinction, Mark Weber has made this claim: "In this critically important struggle, no comparable institution matches the IHR's record of focus, achievement and resolve."

This is blatantly false, and I think Mark Weber knows it. Let me start out with this simple point. Under the fine leadership of Richard Widmann, we Revisionists have created the online Revisionist journal, Inconvenient History. I would be quick to point out that we are not paid for this work and we do the work in our spare time. Now, contrast this with Mark Weber's record. As former IHR editor, Ted O'Keefe, so rightly noted, Mark Weber is the world's only salaried Revisionist. Revisionism is supposed to be his full time job, for which he is paid around $45,000 per year. Yet, Weber does not now, nor has he ever, produced an online Revisionist journal, despite the fact that he has ample time on his hands to do so, and he is adequately paid for his labor. As a former IHR employee pointed out, Weber would rather sit around, type out lengthy correspondence on this computer, chit-chat about current politics, talk on the phone to his wife and friends, and send out newspaper clippings to about 1000 people. (the employee was in a position to closely observe Weber's work habits for many years.) And, oh yes, every once in a while he speaks on an obscure radio talk show, writes a short essay for his web site, or sponsors an "open house" in which about two dozen people show up for food, drinks and "spirited conversation." Weber does very little of any real value.

Directly contradicting what Weber wrote, the IHR under Weber's leadership has demonstrated a lack of achievement. As a leader of the IHR, Mark Weber has driven the once thriving think tank to the brink of extinction. He destroyed the Journal of Historical Review; he destroyed the IHR's book publishing arm; he destroyed the IHR newsletter; and he destroyed the yearly IHR conferences. After years of prodding, the lazy Weber briefly sponsored a weekly Internet Radio Broadcast. But, like most of Weber's projects, it disappeared in a short time.

Weber has a proven inability to get his work done. Many years ago, he was supposed to write a book entitled The Final Solution: Legend and Reality. Weber never finished the book, even though he had ample opportunity to do so. If this demonstrates anything at all, it shows Weber's lack of focus and resolve to get a job done. Now, contrast this record with that of Germar Rudolf. Germar, who is no longer active in the Revisionist movement, was hunted around the world by the German government, and he operated on a miniscule budget. Yet, despite all of the adversity that this brave Germanic dynamo faced, Germar produced two journals and a countless number of books!!!!

One more example: Brad Smith. Revisionist spokesman Smith operates on a very miniscule budget, and he is recovering from cancer. Despite this adversity, the good soldier Smith still produces a monthly Revisionist newsletter. Yet, the healthy Weber who took in millions of dollars over the years from donations, has next to nothing to show!!!!!!!!

For years, many people told Weber to move the IHR to a less expensive location in order to save money. He refused to do this. It was only after Weber literally drove the IHR to brink of extinction that he chose to move the IHR to a less expensive location. Did he do this to save his approximately $45,000 per year salary????

In past fundraising letters, Weber refers to the "robust sales of educational materials." A large proportion of the books and tapes he sells were inherited from the glory days of the IHR, when Willis Carto was in charge. The Weber-led IHR has produced very little of real value.

Mark Weber led the charge to drive Willis Carto's Liberty Lobby and Spotlight out of business. Weber defeated Carto and company in court, and Weber took in about one million dollars from Carto. And what does Mark Weber have to show for his years of legal battling and the one million dollars taken from Carto? Next to nothing!!! The IHR in on the verge of extinction!!!!!!!!! Once again, directly contradicting what Weber wrote in his fundraiser, this shows a lack of achievement, resolve and focus on Weber's part.

Now, let us compare Weber's record to that of his enemy, Willis Carto. The elderly Carto lost his home, Liberty Lobby, and his Spotlight. Yet, Carto and company arose from the ashes, and went on to create the American Free Press and the Barnes Review. It is Weber's enemy Carto that demonstrated focus, achievement and resolve, and not Weber.

What is Mark Weber to do???

This missive is not meant to degrade Mark Weber. If I've said it once, I've said it one thousand times, Mark Weber (in my opinion) is an outstanding writer, speaker and debater. I believe he could have been an outstanding historian. Let us hope that Mark Weber acquires some real resolve and focus, rises to the occasion, and uses his obvious talents more productively. Only time will tell if Mark Weber can show some backbone and arise from the ashes like his enemy Willis Carto did.

In addition, let us hope that Mark Weber publicly addresses the claims of the anti-Revisionist writers that continue to use his essay, "How Relevant is Holocaust Revisionism?" as a battering ram against the Revisionist movement.

So, if Mark Weber shows substantial improvements in his productive output, and he publicly addresses the claims of the anti-Revisionists who are using his material against the Revisionist movement, I for one would be willing to "cross the aisle," shake hands and welcome him back to the Revisionist movement.

Paul Grubach

NB: Weber is beyond salvation he must be 'kicked to the curb' ... his lazy and indolant behavior MUST BE punished!